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Avoid the Negative Effects From Dairy by Choosing Plant Foods for Calcium

Avoid the Negative Effects From Dairy by Choosing Plant Foods for Calcium

Calcium is a mineral found in the ground and is absorbed by the roots of plants.  Contrary to what the dairy industry wants us to believe, whole plant foods contain sufficient amounts of calcium to support every stage of our life after infancy. (Mother's milk is recommended for the first two years of life.) Consider the enormous size of the elephant, hippopotamus, giraffe, horse, and cow.  These mammals consume a purely vegetarian diet which is sufficient to grow and maintain their massive skeletons.  

Calcium in green vegetables is actually absorbed better than from dairy. (50% compared to 32%.)  Consuming dairy is not protective, it promotes bone loss and osteoporosis.  In fact, the countries that consume the most dairy have the highest rates of hip fractures.  Dairy also promotes all forms of cancer (including breast and prostate cancer), arthritis, diabetes (and type 1 diabetes), acne, digestive disorders, obesity, autoimmune conditions, and heart disease.  Additionally, dairy is linked to childhood ear infections, skin rashes, sudden infant death syndrome, headaches, respiratory problems such as asthma, and neurological disorders like multiple sclerosis.  

Furthermore, dairy contains pus, hormones, antibiotics, and bacteria like salmonella, staphylococci, and listeria.  A large number of dairy herds test positive for bovine immunodeficiency, bovine leukemia virus, and paratuberculosis.  Millions of dollars are spent by the dairy industry every year, marketing misleading information.  Their propaganda sells products, but at the same time, it's making us all sick.  So the next time you're at the grocery store, pass up the dairy aisle, & load your cart with lots of fresh, calcium-rich produce!

 

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what about raw, organic, non-homogenized milk from grass fed only, cows? i have read about people who tried vegan diets & started losing their teeth, etc. 1 person who's book i read, concluded that there was some unknown factor in milk that was necessary in order to maintain a healthy skeleton.

 
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Mike, following is a short article that is based on science. Please read it.

https://www.pcrm.org/news/blog/white-lies-five-milk-myths-debunked

Claiming "unknown" factors sounds to me like someone trying to justify their addiction to dairy products.

Here is an audio report on the diseases which can be contracted from raw cow's milk.

https://www.drmcdougall.com/health/education/podcast/virgil-hulse-md/

I'd suggest paying attention to Dr. Carney's recommendations for eating a whole foods plant-based diet. You may have noticed that she has lovely teeth. :-)

 
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hi. the author of the book was a proponent of a vegan diet, but if i remember correctly, it was a child of hers that started having problems w/their teeth. she put them back on organic grass fed milk & their problems disappeared. i would have to hunt down the book to see what exactly the situation was. it could b the fact that there r exceptions where some people do better on other types of diets.
i actually believe in vegetarianism, since my health & endurance vastly improved when i became vegetarian when i was in school. those were the healthiest 7 yrs of my life. i hardly ever eat meat, to b honest.
yes dr carney does have nice looking teeth, but u never know if they r real, lol. actually i'm sure they are.
thanks for the info. i will check those sites & articles out.
btw, i lllllllove cheese & will miss it very much if i omit it from my diet. no more pizza

 
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i have a question regarding vegan diets. have u had to use vitamin b12 supplements in order to keep ur b12 levels up? i remember reading that the bacteria in the mouth, if it is healthy bacteria, produces b12. please let me know. thanks.

 
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Mike,
You might like to read this Guest Blogger Contribution from Deborah on Dr. Carney's site about the subject of B-12: https://www.drcarney.com/blog/health-issues/vitamin-b12-it-s-not-just-for-meat-eaters-anymore

 
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thanks sean. it was informative, but it didn't go into the part about our bodies being able to produce b12, but i did get some info on that in the comments section. back in the 70s, we read that bacteria on the teeth may produce b12, but it is killed off w/mouthwashes, etc. maybe it's a good idea to go w/out brushing ur teeth at least for 1 meal. i have read about a tribe somewhere in latin america that is vegan & they r very healthy w/strong bones & teeth. they obviously don't take b12 supplements. maybe it is the bacteria in the teeth & in the colon that produce it enough to keep their levels up.

 
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Mike, the following link addresses the notion of relying on what is produced in the body. Spoiler alert: probably a bad idea. :-) https://veganhealth.org/intestinal-bacteria-as-b12-source/#iran

Modern life, which is cleaner and therefore less risk of contracting cholera & typhoid, may also increase our need to take B12 supplements. They are recommended for everyone eating a plant-based diet, everyone over the age of 50 even if they do eat animal products & even many meat-eaters since it can be difficult for our bodies to extract B12 from foods.

 
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thank u deborah. i wonder if the difference btwn the indians living in india & the ones in britain has to do w/chlorinated vs non-chlorinated water, among other things.

 
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Possibly. Does it matter? Are you suggesting that we stop chlorinating water, which would significantly increase rates of e-coli poisoning, cholera & typhoid, rather than just taking clean, pleasant & reliable B12 supplements?

 
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yes, it matters. if u r out in the wilderness or in a foreign country where they don't chlorinate their water, it would. for many years we lived in a town here in america where they did not chlorinate the water. never got sick, never had any boil orders cuz of bacterial, etc contamination. then 1 day, the water tasted horrible. they started to chlorinate our water, probably to comply w/federal regs. then i remember 1 time we had a boil order in spite of chlorination. chlorination has no doubt saved lives, but it's a trade off. it causes cancer, etc. so to me it matters, since it would b nice not to have to rely on supplements, if the body could produce it. it's kind of like not having to depend on meat, in order to get ur protein.

 
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Taking a regular B12 supplement has zero in common with relying on meat for protein.

 
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deborah, it was just an analogy.
i'm getting the impression that either u work for the supplement industry, &/or u have absolutely no social skills. chill out. life is short.

 
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Mike, Your last reply to Deborah was not actually what I would call civil. Please do not become a troll here either willingly or unwillingly. Be nice even if you do not agree. Asking honest questions is always welcome and friendly conversations are always welcome too. But, snarkly comments really should be resisted. We need to follow rule number one here at all times which is to "Be Nice". We don't have to agree but this community is intended to be a friendly place.

Agree to disagree agreeably. :-)

Thank you for considering this.
Sean

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Thank you Sean.

 
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hi sean. i know my remark was a little snarky, but it was after having read her unnecessarily aggressive remarks. i'm sorry. but i hope u also asked her to b more civil in her tone, especially when i question things or have a different opinion. thank u.

 
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I got this from a local food manufacture regarding B12: the number one most prominent source of B12 is bacteria that grows in the soil - where the plants grow. Upon harvest, the plants are covered with the bacteria. The issue is that FDA (government) regulations require bacterial and insect sterilization (or near sterilization to some established level) before public distribution. This sterilization removes and/or kills the B12 bacteria. Herbicides also kill bacteria.

Vegans are at greater risk of B12 deficiency than meat eaters because the grains and grasses that are fed to cattle are not sterilized so the animals get plenty of it - nearly enough to pass on to those who eat them. (notice I said "nearly").

Over the past thirty years of being vegan, I have never been B12 deficient. I attribute that to concentrating on organic produce and nothing more than a water rinse before eating (I'm not too concerned about a little dirt). Although organic produce still requires FDA "sterilization", at least it doesn't have insecticide, bactericide and herbicide chemicals, so a bit more B12 bacteria survives. Although I haven't been deficient, I did start taking B12 supplements a few years...

I got this from a local food manufacture regarding B12: the number one most prominent source of B12 is bacteria that grows in the soil - where the plants grow. Upon harvest, the plants are covered with the bacteria. The issue is that FDA (government) regulations require bacterial and insect sterilization (or near sterilization to some established level) before public distribution. This sterilization removes and/or kills the B12 bacteria. Herbicides also kill bacteria.

Vegans are at greater risk of B12 deficiency than meat eaters because the grains and grasses that are fed to cattle are not sterilized so the animals get plenty of it - nearly enough to pass on to those who eat them. (notice I said "nearly").

Over the past thirty years of being vegan, I have never been B12 deficient. I attribute that to concentrating on organic produce and nothing more than a water rinse before eating (I'm not too concerned about a little dirt). Although organic produce still requires FDA "sterilization", at least it doesn't have insecticide, bactericide and herbicide chemicals, so a bit more B12 bacteria survives. Although I haven't been deficient, I did start taking B12 supplements a few years ago just for the sake of insurance.

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thank u very much ken. this explains y ancient vegans weren't deficient. i know that dr axe recommends a little dirt on veggies, washing but not scrubbing carrots for example. considering regulations that apply to even organic produce, growing ur own organic garden is probably the best way.
as we age, our digestion isn't as good as when were young, so i can see y taking a supplement would b wise, something i do once in a while. thanks again.

 
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MIKE posted:

what about raw, organic, non-homogenized milk from grass fed only, cows? i have read about people who tried vegan diets & started losing their teeth, etc. 1 person who's book i read, concluded that there was some unknown factor in milk that was necessary in order to maintain a healthy skeleton.

I think there are too many variables involved to make a judgement from "reading" about people who "tried" vegan diets & started losing their teeth, etc. I have been vegan for the past 30 years and my dental health improved since the change and still no issues in my late 60's. I know may elderly vegans with no dental losses or issues - but I know lots of people who consume milk, etc. who suffer extensive dental issues.
Also, the need for milk in order to maintain a healthy skeleton is counter to biology; milk is not a natural food for any mammal past infancy. Then there are people, like Ruth Heidrich whose osteoporosis went away after becoming vegan. And for what it's worth, my wife and I are the only members of our extended families (in our age group) that does not suffer some sort of skeletal issue. We are the only vegans in our families.

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Ken, as usual, makes a valuable post. Just to add to the discussion. Organically fed cow's milk will still create a rise in IGF-1 levels in your bloodstream. Once you are grown, you don't want these high levels that are associated with cancer promotion. Just learn about T. Colin Campbell's reasearch on dairy protein and perhaps you will give up dairy as I did when I learned that casein can promote cancer growth. Then there is the issue of excess estrogen in the milk since the cow is pregnant when giving milk. There are so many non-dairy milks now to replace cancer promoting dairy milk that it is so easy to make this transition which is better for our health.

Happy Holiday Month to all my plant-based peers on Dr. Carney's site.

 
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thanks for the info denise.

 
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thanks ken for ur input. i was the only vegetarian (lacto ovo) in my family, growing up. my family would come down w/the flu but i would never contract it. my immunity was much better than theirs. of course as u say, there r many variables, & 1 of those could have been that i hardly ate any sweets, while everyone else did. but i still believe in vegetarianism. maybe the vegans that i have read about having issues, ate lots of sweets. maybe they figured that they could "reward" themselves much more since they were vegan.

 
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Thank you Ken, JoAnn, and Marky,

I am so grateful for your answers and hope now that others searching on Google and other search engines who are asking the same or similar questions might find this page and find your answers.

Sean

 
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I hope I haven't already posted on this and just don't see my post, because it's something I would have jumped on!
I went vegan 15 years ago and reversed osteoporosis to osteopenia. With NO calcium supplements.
The countries with the highest dairy intake have the highest rates of low bone density. We have been fed BS from the dairy industry, and the USDA is an accomplice which is sad but that's their job - not our health.

 
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thanks for the info. of course calcium is far from being the only thing needed for strong bones.

 
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thanks for the info!

 
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