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  • Hi David,

    So sorry I have missed your questions until now! Don't know how that happened!

    Your questions:
    - Do you eat a raw vegan diet?
    No, it's a mix of raw and cooked. I eat a lot of cooked potatoes and rice, but certainly not limited to that.

    - Do you always cook your own food?
    My wife...

    Hi David,

    So sorry I have missed your questions until now! Don't know how that happened!

    Your questions:
    - Do you eat a raw vegan diet?
    No, it's a mix of raw and cooked. I eat a lot of cooked potatoes and rice, but certainly not limited to that.

    - Do you always cook your own food?
    My wife does all the cooking, but she cooks the foods I would cook if I did the cooking, but she is in charge of the kitchen!

    - Do you plan your exercise at a specific time every day?
    Mostly. I take a three mile walk/jog each day between 1:00 and 2:00 PM. I prefer the heat of the day!

    Thanks for you comments and questions.

    To your health,
    Ken

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  • Hi Mitchell,

    I'm not a doctor or medical professional in any sense, but thought I would chime in with what I have learned from personal experience and from Dr. Carney and other doctors like her.

    Glucose is dissipated by conversion to energy. It is biology's fuel. Anything that prevents...

    Hi Mitchell,

    I'm not a doctor or medical professional in any sense, but thought I would chime in with what I have learned from personal experience and from Dr. Carney and other doctors like her.

    Glucose is dissipated by conversion to energy. It is biology's fuel. Anything that prevents glucose from being dissipated into energy (metabolism) causes it to build up in the blood stream. Insulin is the hormone that enables the cells to metabolize glucose. It is the equivalent of fuel injectors in a car engine.

    I guess you already know all that, but to answer your question; insulin resistance is an analog effect - not digital. The "resistance" in insulin resistance means that it's function is resisted, but not entirely stopped (stopped would be fatal). When more insulin is required for sufficient metabolism than one's beta cells can produce, then adding more from an external source helps fill the gap. Of course, this should be considered an intermediate treatment while the insulin resistance condition is being reversed. The value of the extra insulin is to keep metabolism at a sufficient rate to sustain the cells. High blood sugar indicates an unsustainable (failing) rate.

    Supplemental insulin is definitely not a fix - with its own issues - but it helps reduce cell carnage until the insulin resistance is finally eliminated. Fortunately, cutting fat from the diet does the trick (keeping all ingredients below 10% calories from fat). Also note that exercise accelerates the progress by increasing blood flow. Animal protein also causes insulin resistance by a somewhat different process that involves inflammation that damages the cells metabolic elements.

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  • Denise Rose Linda Carney MD

    I understand that that animal protein can cause insulin resistance. But I don't understand then how some people are using ketosis to reverse diabetes. I understand it is unhealthy, but I was trying to understand why it can work for some people despite the...


    Denise Rose Linda Carney MD

    I understand that that animal protein can cause insulin resistance. But I don't understand then how some people are using ketosis to reverse diabetes. I understand it is unhealthy, but I was trying to understand why it can work for some people despite the negative problems that come with it. I have known people who say they reduced or got rid of their resistance through ketosis. But I don't understand how that happens.


    Hi Denise,

    As a Type-1 diabetic and a fault analysis engineer obsessed with the mechanics of diabetes, I can say from first-hand experience that ketosis does not and cannot cure or improve diabetes. The confusion is in the definition. The general definition of diabetes is the condition of elevated blood-sugar. But that definition is over simplified, ignoring the mechanics of the condition. In my opinion, diabetes is anytime the metabolic system is compromised to where its response timing is too slow. This means that if one's blood-sugar spikes after eating anything; white potato, white rice, cup of cake frosting, sugar drink - anything - then, in my opinion, that is diabetes. Ketosis makes one's blood-sugar numbers look good only because the system is in an extreme state of glucose starvation; not because of a healthy metabolic system. So, the appearance of ketosis curing or improving diabetes is a false indication. Blood-sugar numbers can be good even with extreme insulin resistance.
    It may also be good to understand that ketones are extremely toxic. You can buy ketones at Home Depot. It is an industrial organic solvent and is labeled extremely poisonous. It may be argued that that is a different ketone, but - it works the same way in one's body. It is a solvent damaging and dissolving fat, muscle, organ tissue, etc., etc., etc. - it's some really bad stuff.

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  •   scarney reacted to this post about 2 months ago

    I think the tobacco industry ran some similar studies.

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  • Sean Carney 13 hours ago

    Excellent thread here. Enjoying it very much. I am so grateful that Ken answered because I knew that Dr. Carney was going to have a hard time answering any questions until November. She has some deadlines hanging over her head right now.
    Thanks, Y'all


    Thanks...



    Sean Carney 13 hours ago

    Excellent thread here. Enjoying it very much. I am so grateful that Ken answered because I knew that Dr. Carney was going to have a hard time answering any questions until November. She has some deadlines hanging over her head right now.
    Thanks, Y'all


    Thanks Sean, but please - no one assume I speak for Dr. Carney or that I am an authority in any form. I'm just another member of this community sharing my experiences and what I have learned from them.

    Ken

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  • Denise Rose 19 hours ago

    Ken, can you elaborate on this point: "Animal sourced protein causes insulin resistance by a different mechanism from fat. Instead of directly inhibiting insulin, it inhibits your efficiency by damaging the endothelium cell lining of the blood vessels, reducing...



    Denise Rose 19 hours ago

    Ken, can you elaborate on this point: "Animal sourced protein causes insulin resistance by a different mechanism from fat. Instead of directly inhibiting insulin, it inhibits your efficiency by damaging the endothelium cell lining of the blood vessels, reducing nutrient and oxygen transfer."


    Hi Denise,
    That statement is actually a bit over broad for the context of the sentence. The issue actually goes far beyond the endothelium cells; basically, the whole body. Cell biology is actually quite complex with many interconnected elements. Insulin resistance is not solely limited to the insulin receptors and passing glucose into the cell is not the end of the line. Once glucose enters the cell, something has to be done with it. It must be metabolized (dissipated as energy). For that, the cell must be healthy in more ways than just insulin receptors. There are many elements within the cell that is responsible for that. One of which is the mitochondria. If there is an issue with the mitochondria or any of its support mechanisms, then it can't metabolize the glucose (or enough of it), so the end result is the same as fat induced insulin resistance, but the real issue in that case is cell health or cell damage.
    Inflammation is a very damaging process - often exaggerating the damage being inflicted by the offending agent. Importing cells from another animal is considered a hostile invader by the immune system prompting a rush to attack it. In the process, there is collateral damage - the cells we wish to keep. As you know, this process spreads inflammation throughout the body; some of which we are aware of such as arthritis and pimples and some we are not, such as coronary artery disease. There are also conditions that mimic insulin resistance, but is not actually related. Any sort of illness; viral, bacterial and even inflammation regardless of source prompts the liver and muscles to excrete glycogen into the blood stream. This is to be countered with an increase of insulin to increase metabolism for energy to fight the illness. This process, when taken to extreme results in fever as the body is burning fuel at an overwhelming rate in the effort. This appears as insulin resistance because of the very large insulin requirements for that level of energy production, but it isn't really insulin resistance. For me, fat induced insulin resistance is obvious when insulin requirements elevate, insulin/glucose control slide out of sync, onsets in 12-24 hours and lasts for 30 days. Conditions like illness requires huge doses of insulin, but it is still in sync and subsides as quickly as the illness, often abruptly.
    I hope this helps!

    Ken

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  • Denise Rose Linda Carney MD

    I understand that that animal protein can cause insulin resistance. But I don't understand then how some people are using ketosis to reverse diabetes. I understand it is unhealthy, but I was trying to understand why it can work for some people despite the...


    Denise Rose Linda Carney MD

    I understand that that animal protein can cause insulin resistance. But I don't understand then how some people are using ketosis to reverse diabetes. I understand it is unhealthy, but I was trying to understand why it can work for some people despite the negative problems that come with it. I have known people who say they reduced or got rid of their resistance through ketosis. But I don't understand how that happens.


    Hi Denise,

    As a Type-1 diabetic and a fault analysis engineer obsessed with the mechanics of diabetes, I can say from first-hand experience that ketosis does not and cannot cure or improve diabetes. The confusion is in the definition. The general definition of diabetes is the condition of elevated blood-sugar. But that definition is over simplified, ignoring the mechanics of the condition. In my opinion, diabetes is anytime the metabolic system is compromised to where its response timing is too slow. This means that if one's blood-sugar spikes after eating anything; white potato, white rice, cup of cake frosting, sugar drink - anything - then, in my opinion, that is diabetes. Ketosis makes one's blood-sugar numbers look good only because the system is in an extreme state of glucose starvation; not because of a healthy metabolic system. So, the appearance of ketosis curing or improving diabetes is a false indication. Blood-sugar numbers can be good even with extreme insulin resistance.
    It may also be good to understand that ketones are extremely toxic. You can buy ketones at Home Depot. It is an industrial organic solvent and is labeled extremely poisonous. It may be argued that that is a different ketone, but - it works the same way in one's body. It is a solvent damaging and dissolving fat, muscle, organ tissue, etc., etc., etc. - it's some really bad stuff.

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  • Yes,very close. Although any damage, even if not necessarily the insulin receptors will cause the cell to not function properly. So even if the glucose actually gets in, the cell still can't metabolize to do its job. Like if your car engine is damaged, it still won't work even if there is...

    Yes,very close. Although any damage, even if not necessarily the insulin receptors will cause the cell to not function properly. So even if the glucose actually gets in, the cell still can't metabolize to do its job. Like if your car engine is damaged, it still won't work even if there is plenty of fuel in the tank.
    Note that if a person on a ketogenic diet adds carbohydrates to their diet, the ketones will diminish. Also note that if a person who has "cured" their diabetes with ketogenics eats a high glycemic meal, their blood-sugar will spike, meaning they are still diabetic.

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  • Hi Denise,
    Yes, the fat is actually leaving the cells with ketosis, but it's a matter of how it's leaving. imagine you have a box of contents and you want to remove some of the contents from the box. One way is to open the box and remove the specific contents. Another way could be to bash the...

    Hi Denise,
    Yes, the fat is actually leaving the cells with ketosis, but it's a matter of how it's leaving. imagine you have a box of contents and you want to remove some of the contents from the box. One way is to open the box and remove the specific contents. Another way could be to bash the box with a hammer until the contents are out, or you could dissolve the box with a solvent to get the contents out. The problem with the last two option leaves the box damaged. If you have cells that have been purged of fat by ketones or any other chemical solvent, they may no longer be inhibited by fat, but they are now inhibited by damage or killed entirely. They are still insulin resistant, because they are damaged such that they cannot fully function even if properly fueled.

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  • Hi Wes,

    Thanks for the kind words!
    Wow! 1400 calories per day? I am a small person; 5'4", 120 lbs. and I eat more than 1400 calories per day. I no longer count calories and I have found that the higher my insulin sensitivity is, the less calories I need. It's an efficiency thing. Still, I think...

    Hi Wes,

    Thanks for the kind words!
    Wow! 1400 calories per day? I am a small person; 5'4", 120 lbs. and I eat more than 1400 calories per day. I no longer count calories and I have found that the higher my insulin sensitivity is, the less calories I need. It's an efficiency thing. Still, I think 1400 calories is way too low.
    It is true that the calorie density of a LFWFPB is far less than what's on the western diet. This only means that you have to increase the portion sizes and / or frequency of eating. I no longer pay attention to "serving size" labels. I consider a serving of cantaloupe is a cantaloupe (the whole cantaloupe), not just a slice or two. A serving of baked potatoes is typically one and a half or two giant Russets or a plate full of smaller, fist size, potatoes. My lunch is typically 2-1/2 heaping cups of brown rice, a large naval orange plus a bunch of grapes and a banana or two. I guess you get the idea. Even with larger meals, I do find it easier to eat more meals per day. It is not uncommon for me to have ten "snack" meals per day. Snacks, being air fried potato wedges, fruits, rice, etc.

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  • Denise Rose Linda Carney MD

    I understand that that animal protein can cause insulin resistance. But I don't understand then how some people are using ketosis to reverse diabetes. I understand it is unhealthy, but I was trying to understand why it can work for some people despite the...


    Denise Rose Linda Carney MD

    I understand that that animal protein can cause insulin resistance. But I don't understand then how some people are using ketosis to reverse diabetes. I understand it is unhealthy, but I was trying to understand why it can work for some people despite the negative problems that come with it. I have known people who say they reduced or got rid of their resistance through ketosis. But I don't understand how that happens.


    Hi Denise,

    As a Type-1 diabetic and a fault analysis engineer obsessed with the mechanics of diabetes, I can say from first-hand experience that ketosis does not and cannot cure or improve diabetes. The confusion is in the definition. The general definition of diabetes is the condition of elevated blood-sugar. But that definition is over simplified, ignoring the mechanics of the condition. In my opinion, diabetes is anytime the metabolic system is compromised to where its response timing is too slow. This means that if one's blood-sugar spikes after eating anything; white potato, white rice, cup of cake frosting, sugar drink - anything - then, in my opinion, that is diabetes. Ketosis makes one's blood-sugar numbers look good only because the system is in an extreme state of glucose starvation; not because of a healthy metabolic system. So, the appearance of ketosis curing or improving diabetes is a false indication. Blood-sugar numbers can be good even with extreme insulin resistance.
    It may also be good to understand that ketones are extremely toxic. You can buy ketones at Home Depot. It is an industrial organic solvent and is labeled extremely poisonous. It may be argued that that is a different ketone, but - it works the same way in one's body. It is a solvent damaging and dissolving fat, muscle, organ tissue, etc., etc., etc. - it's some really bad stuff.

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    • I was going to reply in a similar fashion but I knew you would respond sooner or later and it explain it so much better. Thanks!
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    • Hi Ken, So if I understand your point, when diabetics try to use ketosis to "cure" their diabetes, they are not really getting the fat out of their Hi Ken, So if I understand your point, when diabetics try to use ketosis to "cure" their diabetes, they are not really getting the fat out of their cells which are keeping the insulin receptors from doing their job properly, to let the glucose in. It appears they are getting better, because they are not taking in glucose (carbs) in their desire to be in ketosis so their blood sugar numbers are better. To just make clear I understand, they are not burning the fat in the cells that is causing the problem for their insulin resistance? I am trying to wrap my ahead around these mechanisms... From the plant-based docs, we learn that when diabetics go on a WFPB diet, the fat actually starts to leave their cells, and that is how they start getting better. And by not reinjuring themselves with more fatty foods (meat, oils, processed foods), they can begin to heal. So you can see my trying to understand what some say happens in ketosis with diabetics. In writing about this, I think the main question I am posing, is the one above, are these diabetics in ketosis actually burning the fat out of their cells that are a symtpom of their harmful diets and causing their insulin resistance? Again just to be clear, I am not a proponent of this and know it is dangerous. I just want to be able to understand what actually happens better with this harmful approach and why these diabetics think they are getting rid of their disease. And thank you Ken for your answer, please add more if you can elaborate on this post to make sure I get it.  More ...
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  • Matthew 15 hours ago

    This very problem destroyed my life. It's too bad doctors aren't more aware of this problem. My recurring ear infections led to systemic candida and what doctors label mental illness. What a nightmare! Please help your children, don't just trust the medical establishment.

    T...

    Matthew 15 hours ago

    This very problem destroyed my life. It's too bad doctors aren't more aware of this problem. My recurring ear infections led to systemic candida and what doctors label mental illness. What a nightmare! Please help your children, don't just trust the medical establishment.

    Thank you for that Matthew! The value of sharing your experience is immeasurable. Your nightmare is other's awakening.

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    This very problem destroyed my life. It's too bad doctors aren't more aware of this problem. My recurring ear infections led to systemic candida and what doctors label mental illness. What a nightmare! Please help your children, don't just trust the medical establishment.

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    Matthew 15 hours ago

    This very problem destroyed my life. It's too bad doctors aren't more aware of this problem. My recurring ear infections led to systemic candida and what doctors label mental illness. What a nightmare! Please help your children, don't just trust the medical establishment.

    Thank you for that Matthew! The value of sharing your experience is immeasurable. Your nightmare is other's awakening.

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    This very problem destroyed my life. It's too bad doctors aren't more aware of this problem. My recurring ear infections led to systemic candida and what doctors label mental illness. What a nightmare! Please help your children, don't just trust the medical establishment.

    T...

    Matthew 15 hours ago

    This very problem destroyed my life. It's too bad doctors aren't more aware of this problem. My recurring ear infections led to systemic candida and what doctors label mental illness. What a nightmare! Please help your children, don't just trust the medical establishment.

    Thank you for that Matthew! The value of sharing your experience is immeasurable. Your nightmare is other's awakening.

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    This very problem destroyed my life. It's too bad doctors aren't more aware of this problem. My recurring ear infections led to systemic candida and what doctors label mental illness. What a nightmare! Please help your children, don't just trust the medical establishment.

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    Matthew 15 hours ago

    This very problem destroyed my life. It's too bad doctors aren't more aware of this problem. My recurring ear infections led to systemic candida and what doctors label mental illness. What a nightmare! Please help your children, don't just trust the medical establishment.

    Thank you for that Matthew! The value of sharing your experience is immeasurable. Your nightmare is other's awakening.

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    This very problem destroyed my life. It's too bad doctors aren't more aware of this problem. My recurring ear infections led to systemic candida and what doctors label mental illness. What a nightmare! Please help your children, don't just trust the medical establishment.

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    This very problem destroyed my life. It's too bad doctors aren't more aware of this problem. My recurring ear infections led to systemic candida and what doctors label mental illness. What a nightmare! Please help your children, don't just trust the medical establishment.

    Thank you for that Matthew! The value of sharing your experience is immeasurable. Your nightmare is other's awakening.

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  • kenscircus added a new comment in Callie's Cancer Part 3

    Callie Update 26-Sep-17

    Callie's latest doctor (veterinarian) visit included a full body ultrasound and complete blood-work panel. Her previous ultrasound, taken in June 2016, revealed thickening of the stomach and intestinal walls indicating cancer, which was then confirmed by multiple...

    Callie Update 26-Sep-17

    Callie's latest doctor (veterinarian) visit included a full body ultrasound and complete blood-work panel. Her previous ultrasound, taken in June 2016, revealed thickening of the stomach and intestinal walls indicating cancer, which was then confirmed by multiple biopsies.

    Her latest ultrasound, taken on 14-September 2017, one year and four months after adopting a vegan diet,
    indicates all organs to be normal - no thickening of any tissues noted. Her blood-work is also void of any cancer markers. She no longer has any symptoms or test results indicating cancer.

    Though not cancer related, her total cholesterol of 102 and triglycerides at 34 are of interesting note. Both a total life-history low.

    Callie is now enjoying an increase in her dietary options. Two homemade options have been added, using VegeCat nutrition supplements. While plant based foods have a much higher nutrition density than meat based foods, cats do not have the physical anatomy to extract it, thus requiring supplements. She loves her new homemade meals. The first dish we tried was oatmeal based. She loved it so much her first words were, "Wow! This great!". Ok, no she really didn't say that out loud. She couldn't... her mouth was full. Then we tried her with a barley based meal and she loves it as well. There have been many total flops along the way, but she now has about five daily meal options that she really loves.

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